Who is Red John?

Theories of NickyDee (15)

I reckon the "Tyger, Tyger"  group isn't associated with RJ. RJ seems like a guy who takes a lot of pride in his murders. He has his follower, who are usually used by him in order to pass on messages (the woman who gave the CD to PJ) or cover up some lose ends (the woman who killed Bosco and his team). However, I think all of his disciples end up dead pretty quickly, they clearly don't mean a lot to RJ. Why would RJ have a group of quite important people supporting him? He doesn't need them and they can take some credit away from his "work".

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"But part of Red John’s plan involves bad intentions toward the other suspects on that list. It’s not a good list to be on"- Bruno Heller said this in an interview.

Does this eliminate the theory that RJ and the "Tyger, Tyger" group are working together? I certainly hope so.

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Lets think about a couple of things. Why hasn't RJ killed PJ when he had the chance (he can still easily kill him). PJ is clearly quite a big threat to RJ, so why not get rid of him? He usually kills anyone who is a threat to him (e.g. Bosco). Why does he try and befriend Patrick? Personally, the only thing I can think off is that RJ needs Patrick's help for one reason or another- maybe the RJ wants to bring down the "Tyger, Tyger" group? I am probably wrong though.

Now, the main question, who is RJ? Haffner fits all the descriptions given by Rosalind Harker and Sophie Miller. He is also a member of Visualize, who IMO will play a key role soon. Add that to RJ letting Lisbon live when he had an easy chance to kill her and the fact that Haffner clearly really likes Lisbon.

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Just to all people who think that it was Kirkland's twin who killed Lennon, twins don't look the same after 40 or so years. People's appearance changes depending on their lifestyle etc, so it would be very hard for Michael to look EXACTLY like Bob.

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Let's assume Haffner is RJ, for the reasons stated in other theories. I think someone here also said that Heller said that PJ will face a dilemma when he catches RJ- what to do. My theory is that when PJ catches RJ (lets presume its Haffner), Lisbon will be taken by the "Tyger, Tyger" group and RJ will be the only one who could help, so PJ will be faced with a choice between saving his friend or getting his revenge. Also, remember when Bertram said that he wants to be there when RJ is caught? I reckon this is because RJ knows about the "Tyger, Tyger" group (which I think Bertram is a part of), and he wants to kill RJ before he reveals the secret.

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As many theories here said, I also hope that RJ and the "Tyger, Tyger" groups are separate things, it would be a massive anti climax if RJ wasn't a specific person and a group. I also want RJ to be against the "Tyger, Tyger". However, I have a feeling that PJ is playing a trick with the list. Firstly, he told Lisbon about it, he knows perfectly well that it would put her in danger and all the people she tells (PJ knows she will). I predict that PJ will find RJ soon enough, however, he will be faced with a choice, kill RJ or accept his help and take down the "Tyger, Tyger" group. I reckon he will take them down and kill RJ later. I also think RJ is being made into a more or less sympathetic villain by Heller, for example RJ helping PJ in season 2 (I think, when PJ was tied to the chair). Also the numerous times RJ was trying to reach in to PJ and make him his friend. I for one, am really excited about the prospect of PJ and RJ teaming up for a little, the "Tyger, Tyger" group should be no problem for the 2 of them. We can see that RJ already started to take out some of the members of the "Tyger, Tyger" group by killing Partridge. I also think that the everyone on the list bar Kirkland and RJ are members of the "Tyger, Tyger" group. Haffner is my choice for RJ, he fits the descriptions and seems clever enough to be RJ + he works privately now, unlike the majority of suspects who work for the law enforcement.

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Like some of the theories on here say, I really want RJ and the "Tyger, Tyger" group to be two separate things. Also, I want RJ to be against the "Tyger, Tyger". This would explain the death of Partridge, is RJ slowly taking out the members of the group? Lets hope so. For some reason I want RJ to be a kind of a sympathetic villain, I want him to help PJ take the "Tyger, Tyger" group down. As for who RJ is, Haffner seems the obvious choice, firstly he fits all the physical description, then there is his relationship with Lisbon. Finally, what interests me is that he doesn't work for the law enforcement anymore, instead he works privately, is this a clue? ("Tyger, Tyger" has memebers of the law enforcement). 

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