Who is Red John?

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Theory #7017 • By Kirkpatrick
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There is something about Lisbon!!!!

Rewatch S4E2 (Little Red Book) 

Jane killed Timothy Carter ,he was thninking him as RJ. But than Jane set his mind that Timothy Carter was not Red John. Heree is the thing;

LISBON IS TRYING TO CONVINCE JANE THAT HE KILLED RED JOHN ,CHECK THE SCENE on minutes 27.00- 28.85 and listen the background music ,LISBON IS TRYING HARD TO CONVINCE JANE THAT HE KILLED RED JOHN


Lisbon reminded Jane about how might Red John would know his hidde happy memory inside his head at the hospital at S6E1 suddenly, Than Jane called Sophie Miller (his former doctor) and could not reach her and decided to go her house.  

IF LISBON WOULD NOT REMIND THIS TO JANE , JANE WOULD NOT GO TO CHECK HER ADDRESS AND WOULD NOT FIND HER HEAD OFF IN THE OVEN.

LISBON ALWAYS DIRECTS JANE TO SOMEWHERE/SOMETHING and the CLOSEST PERSON ON TTHE SERIAL TO HIM. 

I EXPECT SOMETHING HIDDEN ABOUT LISBON ,LISBON might be Red John's bitch .She is so straight,does evertthing correctly ,appropriately, no passion ,no boy friend. She should have a second secret life..

(HELLER HEAR ME, CHANGE THE SCENARIO AND LISTEN MY ABOVE WORDS;)


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Theory #6985 • By Kirkpatrick
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 Heller always turns down , he does not know what to do next , he is trying to buy some tie, he does not really know what to do. NONE OF CURRENT CHARACTERS ARE SATISFACTORY TO BE RED JOHN TO MAKE STORY A LEDENG ,he needs to create a new character urgently, otherwise he will constantly twist the audience around. List is terrible , he made the wrong with list , none of that person can be RJ.Bertram--> An idiotic baldy
Reed--> Regular asshole(no deepness of a powerful , genius serial killer)
Sheriff--> A regular local sheriff, going home drinks some bear and sleeps.His sexual life even terrible , check his face.
Stiles--> He is a great man, he would not waste his time with Patrick, he is far beyond over mental games,childish for him.
Partridge--> Was best candidate, Heller migh resurruct him, if he cannot find something more mysterious unexpected or clever
Hafner--> Has potential to be demonic person, his eyes looks very constant and he has a poker face, but he is so ordinary to be RJ
Redjohn is a dangerous person, he has terrible kind of power , he does not need to play or hide RJ to another role, SO I BELIEVE HELLER WİLL GIVE US SOMEONE WE NEVER SEE BEFORE AS RJ, ONLY THIS OPTION MIGHT MAKE THIS SERIAL KIND OF A LEGEND ENDING SERIAL.

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Theory #6764 • By Kirkpatrick
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On the S5E2 Jane was halucinating his daughter , his daughter asked him ;

Does anyone know who you are? Jane said Yes ,Daughter said who is ? Jane came to himself  sayin Lisbon deliriously 

What does this mean? Why her imaginative Daugher said DOES ANYONE KNOW WHO YOU ARE

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In my all previous theories (PLEASE CHECK) before broeadcast of episode 4 ;

1- RJ is not a person on the list
2- There is a secret society (becuase CBC channel is a secret society's channel and this serial includes lots of masonic-illuminati symbolizms in backgrounds) 

Now , people just be clever and understand the mechanism

This serial is based on the sense of making more surprising and giving always the unexpected thing. Now ,like a fold, everyone has already been manilpulated and misdirected to this 7 people. BUT RJ WİLL NOT BE ONE OF THEM. 

Final facts that you will understand in future episodes are;

1- RJ is a person
2- RJ leading a secret /satanic organization
3-Tyger Tyger has more greater meaning, but Bertram,Reed or Sheriff kinda of this people only allow to know the organization on this level.Tyger Tyger will be upgraded to more mysterious meaning in future episodes.
4-Bret Stiles is being awaited ,because Heller wants people think him RJ but untill Bret sheriff, Ray ,Bertram will be eliminiated respectively.

5-Stiles will stand alone , he will guide PJ to see who the RJ is ,Stiles knows who the RJ is, but he cannot do anything agains RJ ,Stiles knows he cannot yield RJ .

6-Partrigde was tool of RJ and being used , Partrigde actually killed and death, he just wanted to tell this organization stuff to Lisbon before he gone.

7- RJ will never be revealed as a person ,,but we as audience and Jane will certainly understand who the RJ is, Rj will never be catched up. (Producers tell about his revelation,but revelation will not be showing a person as this is RJ)

8-Patrick Jane will never gets his revenge, Heller will use emotional position of Patrick and his desperation again at final episode 

9-Jane will loose, satanic will win ,but not explicitly ,everyone will feel this but will not see it,like the episodes where Jane was hallucinatiing his daughter as grown up , everyone felt how he desperate about missing his family, Heller will make same kind of emotional ending and Jane cannot beat RJ.

Please note this theory to somewhere and check my previous theories all of them are fulfiling before episdodes broadcasted. 

Please do not give any attention given in serials, like RJ's pyhsical appearance,voice,or other clues, all of them misdirection.Heller has to make serial ostentatious as Patrick Jane, PJ loves showing off ,RJ loves giving lessons and keeps PJ as a child in respect of striking people. PJ can guess killers, but RJ would kill . PJ always search for something, RJ always knows and never struggles. RJ rules, PJ works. So ending have to follow this routine. SEE THE WHOLE ,NOT CARE DETAILS,THIS SERAL NEVER BASED ON DETAILS ,BASED ON THESE TO CHARACTER'S INVISIBLE WORLDS.


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It is very insteresting that , Heller also speaking about of "Whale" all the time, is this a reference?Why all the time they use MOBY DICK and WHALE???

Heller: Up until now if you’re comparing it to Moby Dick, which is one of the analogies I
used to describe the length of the chase, next season the whale has been
sighted and they’re in the small boats and chasing the whale. It’s much faster
paced, more thrilling, more action, more surprises




Theory #6496 • By TommyOlds 

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This hearing is almost like a conversation that could take place between Patrick Jane and Red John. Note particularly two of Tommy's sentences: his flaming "Oh, spare me your moralizing!" and his mocking conclusion comment "You wouldn't understand." about how redemptive revenge is. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAxEQYqo7no
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Analysis of Heller's
Interview .My personnal comments are italic.


ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY:
After all that craftiness on Patrick Jane’s part, Red John is still a step
ahead of him. So can we really trust that the list is accurate if Red John is
so willing to confirm it?(
This question is not
asking if Red John someone from list)





Bruno Heller
: Yes, we can trust that list.(This answer does not mean that Red John is someone from the list) As much as much as Red John has been one step ahead, Lorelei
Martins’ intervention changed the game. So as much as Red John is trying to
play from a position of strength in reality Jane has gotten a lot closer. This
last episode of the season really sets
us up for next season
(
There is a 7th Season): The hunt is
on, no messing about.






Once again, you’re making moves
that make me wonder if Patrick Jane is Red John — after all, how else could he
know that memory from inside his head? But by saying
Red John is definitely on the list, can we rule
out the theory held by some fans that Jane is actually Red John?




Heller: I would say that definitively: Jane is not Red John
.( Heller is not approving or saying that Red John is on the list)








Would Red John being caught
necessarily mean the end of the show?






Heller: Let me put it this way: If and when Red John is caught (As I said Red John will never be
catched up and never be revealed
), there’s an interesting life dilemma for Patrick Jane and the
rest. I think it would be very odd if Red John falls dead and the show stops
right there. Because the natural question is: What happens next? It’s either a
big story or smaller story, depending. I mean, I know. But I would be cheating on the
narrative if I told you all I had planned.




 



Overall, what can we expect next
season?


Heller: Up until now if you’re comparing it to Moby Dick, which is one of the analogies I
used to describe the length of the chase, next season the whale has been
sighted and they’re in the small boats and chasing the whale. It’s much faster
paced, more thrilling, more action, more surprises. We’ll still be delivering those
mysteries every week(
Which means You will be
wasting time with 7 person for a long period
). But just as you see with the last episode of the season, there’s
no more tracking and more chasing.

So my final comment is as below; 

RJ IS NOT ON THE LIST, THAT IS FOR SURE AND REST IS AS BELOW;

Brett Partridge is a loser and he is faking original RJ , but might be a pawn for original RJ too. I cannot accept this he cannot be RJ . It was Brett at the final of 2nd Season first Tiger Tiger but it was not real RJ.Mechanism very easy;*RJ is the last person you would think of (Heller made everyone believed Brett Patridge is the most looking like person to RJ with given data untill now and now everyone thinks Heller shows Brett killed and eliminates him from people's mind unless he resurrect him again in upcoming episodes and reveal him as RJ. If Heller thinks this way his intelligency must be investigated ,this is a 6 years age child thought.) None of these 7 person is RJ ,list is trustworty because people in list all of them has a relation with RJ. But none of them RJ.*We will never know who RJ is ,it will not be revealed as a person.(This is my hope,otherwise all story will be waste).*All people in the team will die including Lisbon. Lisbon's dream shall be fulfilled.*Serial will be ended as Patrick will certainly understand who the RJ is, but he cannot be able to catch him, he will watch him while he is leaving him back..

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