Who is Red John?

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NOW we're supposed to believe that JANE is playing it 100% straight?  After FIVE YEARS of watching him pull stunts?

IF RJ was one of the FIVE -- would he SO willingly go to Jane's house without really knowing WHY?  AND FYI:

MALIBU [where Jane's house is] -- is KIND of FAR from SACRAMENTO and NAPA -- like  7 to 10 hours AWAY.  The CBI team and related people seem to move around California like it was the size of Delaware.  ANNOYING!

ALSO -- TINSLEY DID NOT TELL JANE THAT "RED JOHN" HAS THE TATTOO -- only that HER KILLER has the tattoo.  HER KILLER isn't necessarily RJ.  I thought she was hired by someone from Visualize?

HELLO?!  NONE OF THESE THINGS MAKE ANY SENSE --- this is SHITE

AND, for those who think HAFFNER whistling "Blue Fly Tail" is proof that he's RJ ---- it's song about a slave not caring that his master is dying -- and Stiles is Haffner's master/leader who claims to be dying [or just fleeing from the FBI].  Symbolic, but I don't see how that makes Haffner RJ. 

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Theory #10946 • By Hll
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In the very least -- THINK OSCAR ARDILES MAY BE AT THE TOP OF TYGER TYGER

Whether or not he's RJ is another question?

INTERESTING NOTE:  Heller grew up in ENGLAND but his father is German:  V and W in German are pronounced the same so the name OSVALDO would actually be pronounced OS-WALDO -- as in WHERE'S WALDO?

Also -- Osvaldo Ardiles [though called OSSIE in the UK] is a real person -- a latino FOOTBALL coach in UK


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The Great Red Dragon IS Satan, and Satan creates TWO BEASTS to work for him

1st BEAST [part lion, bear, leopard] from the SEA [which can mean nation of people] is called the ANTICHRIST -- SPREADER OF BLASPHEMY; has likeness of Satan w/ 7 heads and 10 horns & crowns [meaning 7 POSITIONS OF POWER/POLITICAL or GOVERNMENT LEADERS and AUTHORITIES
               ** ONE of the HEADs is hurt but then healed to show the power so no one will challenge it.  The purpose is to put FEAR IN THE MIND of people to control them.

-----SOUNDS like Jane's list of "7 Suspects" and the TYGER TYGER organization ["a Beast" of sorts]

2nd BEAST is from the LAND, [two heads/horns] is a FALSE PROPHET or ANTI-HOLY SPIRIT, ensuring the success of BLASPHEMY amongst mankind.   This FALSE PROPHET appears to "heal" others  --- yet real agenda is self glorification -- a deceiver -- often using PSYCHIC abilities and powers experienced as part of "an enlightenment process" [even though in truth leads to self delusion and separation from God]

-----SOUNDS a bit like BRET STILES -- and even the now "reformed" Patrick Jane from his "former life"

      The "Mark of the Beast" [called "666" but by no means having to actually look like that is thought to be put on foreheads and hands of mankind -- but this is translated simply as a MARK, a BRAND, or even a BUSINESS LOGO that people adhere to, worship and work for -- it's ANY KIND OF symbol that is put IN THE MINDS or used THROUGH THE HANDS of people -- who may or may not realize that they are serving a "false idol"

-----SOUNDS like the use of THE VISUALIZE LOGO and the 3 DOT TATTOO

OF COURSE, THE STORY GOES that eventually the TWO BEASTS get thrown into the lake of "Fire & Brimstone" --- just as TYGER TYGER and BRET STILES/HAFFNER/VISUALIZE are both about to experience in the latest episode

BUT, the question still remains:  WHO IS RJ?  And how does ANY of THIS relate to RJ?  
1) Is RJ simply a part of the Beasts  -- a TT and/or Visualize member?  Like one of the 7 Suspects  -- or
2) Is RJ unrelated to any of this?   Someone working from afar, a ghost of sorts, like Kirkland Twin or from Jane's past? 
OR3)  IF RJ is meant to represent Satan -- the Great Red Dragon himself, is he IN CHARGE of, ruling over ALL THE SUSPECTS?    

By sheer coincidence, I HEARD A RADIO SHOW this morning on the car radio that talked about SATAN:  that said that Satan -- who was known as Lucifer, meaning "morning star", was called the most "perfect angel" by God.  BUT, Lucifer fell in love with his own power and beauty, becoming narcissistic and PROUD, and wanted to BE WORSHIPPED instead of having TO WORSHIP.  THUS,  PRIDE was the very first sin.  And the story goes -- Lucifer was cast out of heaven, put down to the earth and thus called SATAN == which means ACCUSER

Interestingly, I also just read that SATAN IS THE ULTIMATE PROSECUTING ATTORNEY 

I have run through many suspect possibilities -- including Ellis Mars, Kristina Frye and the Kirkland twin BUT
IF RJ is meant to represent SATAN -- THEN he must exist as a very powerful character on the show -- HE WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMEONE ABOVE RANK OF ANY OF THE TT members we've met -- and also more powerful than STILES such that both TT and BS either work for him [as the TWO BEASTS WORK FOR SATAN] or understand that they are the little people underneath him

In the least, TT and Stiles FEAR HIM, HAVE to put up with him as a necessary evil -- perhaps a bit of both, though perhaps it is not entirely known to them who RJ is 


SO, who has the most power over all of these people?  The ATTORNEY GENERAL?  Throughout the show -- the "AG" is repeatedly mentioned -- but there's no character we've been shown who is this person.  

NEXT IN LINE is:  THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY GENERAL but again, there's no character we've met who represents this high office -- the closest characters to the AG are 1) Assistant District Attorney OSCAR ARDILES, and Rigsby's Baby Momma, SARAH HARRIGAN, also an Assistant District Attorney


AND, GALE BERTRAM -- Gale Bertram reports to the Attorney General and is referred to as the Deputy Attorney General on Mentalist wiki

---- CAN ANYONE THINK OF any high ranking political character we've met -- higher than ARDILES?  I can't. 

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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3196216/fullcredits?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm

SERIOUSLY?

WALTER MASHBURN's name in the credits is listed as WALTER MASHBURN/RED JOHN


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Has anyone seen http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3196216/fullcredits?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm

Everyone is in this episode:  Partridge, McAllister, Reede, Haffner, KIRKLAND [which must mean his TWIN], Bertram, Minelli -- everyone except Stiles

Also, very curious -- Walter Mashburn returns listed as -- WALTER MASHBURN/RED JOHN

Seriously?  This HAS to be a red herring -- all this time and Heller's not going to let IMDb give it away?

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